Exploring New York City’s Ghost Airport – A Trip To Floyd Bennet Field

This is the entrance to New York City’s ghost airport: Floyd Bennett Field.

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Before LaGuardia and JFK, Floyd Bennett Field was New York City’s first airport, at a time when nearly all air traffic was based out of Newark.

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Floyd Bennett Field was built at the southern end of Brooklyn on what was once known as Barren Island. At the time, Barren Island consisted of a marsh with dozens of smaller islands surrounding it. A small community existed on the island, and in fact, one man had even set up his own runway to take passengers on pleasure flights. The marsh was filled in in the late 1920′s…

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…and Floyd Bennett Field was opened on the site in 1930. Named for the famed Arctic pilot (who in fact lied about reaching the North Pole), the official dedication was marked by the flyover of 672 army aircraft.

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Today, the aerial view of Floyd Bennett looks very much the same:

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FBF was declared part of the Gateway National Recreation Area in 1972, with a number of its buildings added to the National Register of Historic Places. What this means is that when you visit Floyd Bennett Field today…

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…It’s like stepping back in time:

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Floyd Bennett Field is a great place to explore by bike, because the enormous expanse has so many neat things to discover.

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The crown jewel of the bunch is the old Administration building (seen below on bustling Flatbush Avenue)…

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…which looks as though it were built yesterday:

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Originally, this single building served as passenger terminal, air traffic control, baggage and freight distribution, and sleeping quarters for air crews.

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One of my favorite details in all of Floyd Bennett Field is the insignia on the roof:

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The building’s clock, also from another era:

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But probably the most fascinating element is the control tower…

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…which was actually added when the Navy took over the field in the 1940′s.

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At the time of Floyd Bennett’s construction, Newark was the primary airport serving New York City. Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia pushed hard for the airlines to switch to Floyd Bennett, offering waterplane service directly to Manhattan (seen below – what an amenity!).

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However, at the time, passenger travel was a luxury, and in fact most air travel was centered around freight and postage. When the US Postal Service refused to move out of Newark, so did most of the other airlines.

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I have to admit – when you’re parked at one end of Floyd Bennett’s 4,000 foot runaway, it’s really, really hard not to ignore those pesky 25mph signs and see if your car can take off (doesn’t work, sadly).

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Over its 9 years of operation as a commercial airfield, numerous important and record-breaking flights left from Floyd Bennett – see the very impressive (and often amusing) list here. However, LaGuardia Airport’s opening in 1939 sounded the death toll for Floyd Bennett Field, and it was purchased by the Navy in 1941.

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The Floyd Bennett historic district consists of the Administration Building, as well as a number of hangars and repair shops.

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The below picture taken in 1931 offers a better idea of the layout – the Administration Building is in the center, surrounded by hangars.

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Two of the hangars have been beautifully maintained and repurposed as a sports and events center:

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In fact, one wonders if Hangar 8…

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…is the hangar in the background of this picture featuring Amelia Earhart at FBF (note the arched corner):

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Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for the remaining buildings, which are all in pretty terrible states of decay. Take Hangar 5, for example…

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…and compare it to this photograph taken in the 1930′s. The man in the picture? Howard Hughes.

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Interestingly enough, the degradation has revealed just how many entities have called these hangars home over the years, as seen in the overlapping signage:

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I love the old emblem of “NYC” in wings…

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Connecting the two hangars is a central building…

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…which has some really great art deco details:

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Above the door…

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…a very cool rising sun motif…

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Meanwhile, at the roof, the same insignia seen in steel on the gates:

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Unfortunately, as bad as those hangars are, these are even worse:

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It appears they’re doing some level of stabilization to the interior…

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Next door, the entire roof is gone:

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This is the former garage and maintenance shop…

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Inside the entrance:

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Ouch. Really doesn’t get any worse than this:

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You know a building’s been forgotten when the trees start gaining height…

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The other side of the building…

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I wonder if this was a bay for repairs:

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Behind the garage are a series of buildings I haven’t been able to identify. I’m guessing they’re offices or barracks dating to the field’s Naval usage, which lasted until the site was decommissioned in 1971:

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At some point, I think this also was used by a police operation, perhaps the United States Park Police.

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Today, of course, it’s as abandoned as everything else:

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Inside, your standard municipal color scheme:

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Room after empty room:

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Old parking spaces marked on the ground:

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I love finding old sidewalks in overgrowth:

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Inside one of the larger rooms – note the enormous National Parks sign on its side:

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Same room, different angle:

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In between buildings (ha, I actually dropped my keys here while I was exploring; I still can’t believe I managed to find them!).

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Another building, its roof collapsing:

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Clear across the field are a few more buildings of note. I can’t tell you how many times I get asked to find a warehouse like this for hitmen to meet in.

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OK, seriously. You’re a hitman. You’re probably paid very highly for your work. This is quite possibly THE most suspicious place you could be caught meeting a client in. WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST ON REPEATING THIS CLICHE OVER AND OVER AGAIN?? I mean, look at this – would you want to meet someone here if you were a hitman??

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Another dilapidated warehouse…

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I love the old wooden doors:

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A bench in profile:

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This particular warehouse looks creepier from the side:

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Inside the entrance to the warehouse…

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…and how it looks further in (obviously split into two floors):

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Finally, I took a swing by Hangar B, built in 1941 by the Navy to house sea planes.

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It doesn’t have as many details as some of the other buildings, but Hangar B houses its own secret inside…

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A volunteer aircraft restoration program, in which airplane experts and enthusiasts gather to save the flying machines they love. The hangar is often open to the public, and it’s definitely worth checking ahead before visiting:

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Picture courtesy Flickr user Petit Hiboux

Here’s my recommendation. As soon as the days start getting warmer, pick a Saturday, pack a lunch, get a bike, and head out to Floyd Bennett. BUT DON’T PLAN A ROUTE!! Instead, feel your way to FBF. Starting from, say, the Brooklyn Bridge, your goal should simply be to head South and East. Try to resist checking your map as much as possible. I’ve done this twice now, and each time I’ve found myself on streets and in neighborhoods I had no idea existed.

Once you’re there, have a picnic, then go exploring.

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Boating off Floyd Bennett Field circa 1931

 

-SCOUT

PS – A mishap at Floyd Bennett Field (according to the notes, the plane flipped forward while trying to take off):

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PPS – To answer some questions in advance, 1) no, you cannot film in any of the buildings that are run down, as they would most likely collapse and kill you, and 2) no you can’t go exploring in these buildings either.

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Is The New York Film Academy Worth The Money? A Few Thoughts

NY Film Academy

Dear New York Film Academy,

Scout, I wonder if you can help me, I’m a student at the New York Film Academy and I need a free location to shoot in for next Monday and Tuesday…The space I am looking for would be either a stage or a gym

I have a favor to ask.

I am a directing student at the New York Film Academy…I need a doctors office examination room (with the exam bed, and an Ultra Sound). I have a very small budget
Can you please, please start teaching your students how to make movies in New York?
I’m looking for a fully furnished apartment/loft in NYC. It’s a short film approximately 8-10 minutes long. I have a crew of 8 people and 5 actors. Unfortunately I’m working on a tight budget
Every semester, I receive dozens of emails from your students (actual examples quoted here) asking me where they can find unique, iconic NYC filming locations available at next to no cost for several days of rental at extremely short notice…and I just don’t know how to answer these emails anymore. What they’re asking for simply doesn’t exist.
This is a student film so our budget is tight…I’m looking for a hospital to shoot…

I am happy to give advice when I can (I’m an aspiring filmmaker too!!), but honestly, your students are paying tuition costs ranging from $5,000 to $20,000 to learn this kind of information FROM YOU – and this is Filmmaking 101 stuff that should be taught on day 1.

I am currently getting ready to shoot my thesis film…I am looking for a luxury apartment for a 3/4 day shoot. I have an excellent script…But I have no location and no budget for it. 

Furthermore, the locations your students most often ask me about tend to be notoriously expensive and difficult to shoot in: doctor’s offices, jail cells, luxury apartments, high-end restaurants, etc. That students aren’t being warned off writing scripts around such high-priced filming locations they have no prior access to is really, really strange.

I have to shoot my thesis and I’m facing a lot of problems regarding my locations: my story in fact takes place during World War II, and I need 4 peculiar interiors: a bedroom, a living room and a kitcken that can be believable for that time. In order to make my life easier, I also need a jail, ‘40′s-looking as well.
The bottom line, as I’ve written to your students time and again: outside of public streets and parks, THERE ARE NO FREE LOCATIONS IN NEW YORK CITY.
I am doing the 8 week filmmaking program…I came across your site and read your post about 5 Beekman…Being a student, the problem is that my budget is next to non-existent. Is there any possibility that we could get this location next week?
I am a professional movie scout. I would kill to have a roster of locations that are free, or only cost a hundred bucks a day. They do not exist!
I stumbled upon your website while looking for a cemetery to shoot a short film in NYC. I am a student at the New York Film Academy. I was wondering if you had any other suggestions for me for a cemetery to shoot in this weekend. I would prefer to not to have to pay money

But the more upsetting trend I read in these emails is a lack of understanding for just how important the locations element of filmmaking is – and this is simply inexcusable. I do not blame the students – after all, the whole reason they’re attending your school is to learn this sort of thing. What I’m wondering is if it’s even being taught.

My budget is about $400 for location expenses…I’m searching for a warehouse type setting to shoot all five scenes in a matter of three days

A location is literally the canvas you paint your film on. Look past your actors and props, and you’ll realize that 95% of your frame is your location.

Originally l had a story written about an elevator operator…if you have any elevator locations that can be used on a micro budget film – please let me know.
The number one mistake student filmmakers make is thinking that locations are something they can figure out later, often focusing instead on the quality of their equipment, as if that “film look” will make or break the movie. Consider this e-mail:
I’m seeking for a locations for 2 days shooting in NYC area. I will shoot in 35mm, with a panavision camera. maximum i can pay 150$ per day for location.
Why would you ever pay for a 35mm Panavision camera package – and then cut corners in your budget for what goes in front of the lens?? Remember: there’s a reason that Locations is the first department hired after accounting on major movies shooting in New York City.
The final project is a ten minute short film. I’ve estimated a budget of $800, $500 of which will be spent on film stock and processing. I can only spend about $150 as an absolute maximum on securing a location. I don’t even have a story yet…

It is occasionally possible to beg your way into a location for free. But there’s a very, very important reason why you should advise your students to avoid this at all costs: something will go wrong.

I need 2 locations in my film: a hospital and a church. As you probably know these are really hard locations to get permission to shoot in….Since it’s a student film it’s low budget
Yes, students often have the best of intentions and the purest of hearts – but they’re also inexperienced, and something always gets broken, damaged, scratched, burnt, electrocuted, flooded, etc. Without fail. And now you face two possibilities: either 1) the kindly property owner gives you the boot and you are fucked, or 2) the kindly property owner who has let you into his home now has to deal with NYFA insurance claims, hours of headaches, and a mess of problems he never asked for. For free!
I’m planning to shoot my semester film this june for five days and i need a restaurant location that it is supposed to look a bit fancy or romantic. i dont know what is the budget it for that.
There’s a very simple way to avoid these problems, especially if you’re just doing a homework assignment: write around locations  you have access to. As always, your two most important resources are friends and family.
For my final film, I had a perfect location. But we had no idea that you have to have permission even to shoot inside a apartment. So we were kicked out of the apartment.
Back when I started this site, I used to always give advice to students working on low/no budget productions, like how you can secure a New York City public school absurdly cheaply, and get a wealth of locations from it. And then the New York Film Academy emails started pouring in.
Location sought in or near NYC that could give the appearance of an abandoned cottage or house in a forest / woodland. Dates: 4 days.  I’m asking on behalf of a deserving student at the New York Film Academy for her thesis project. I unfortunately have to give you the usual plea of poverty

Again, I don’t blame students for emailing – they’re only doing so because they haven’t received answers at the school they’re paying for.

-SCOUT

PS – Note to film students: I love talking locations, and I’m happy to continue giving general advice on, say, what neighborhoods to go to when scouting for Victorians. However, I cannot point you toward no-budget locations because I have yet to find them myself.

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The House That Created Howard Stern

A few weeks ago, I was driving out to Long Island to scout some airports while listening to the Howard Stern Show on Sirius-XM. During a replay of an old interview with Eddie Murphy, Stern and Murphy began commiserating over having grown up in the town of Roosevelt, Long Island – and I suddenly realized his old home address wasn’t far from where I was.

I decided to go have a look.

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How To Launch A Nuclear Missile In The 1960′s

After exploring and researching the abandoned Cold War-era missile silo in the Saranac valley I posted about on Monday, the one big question I still had was: how do you actually fire the missile? I speculated that this device might be a part of it…

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Turns out, I was right. A reader by the name of Bob wrote a very detailed, informative, and absolutely chilling comment about how exactly a missile launch (read: Armageddon) would go down,  and I wanted to share it with those who might be curious. Take it away, Bob!

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The first step once a message was received and authenticated was to remove two keys from a lock box.  The silo had two operators who sat about 15-20 feet across from each other. Both were officers and one was the commander.

Keys were inserted into the keyhole next to the phone.  At this point a series of buttons and switches were flipped/turned, pressed to enter the information.  The phone would ring at the secondary officers station for final verification and the keys would be turned and the missle committed.

It would go something like this:

***Warble************
(over speaker)
Message Follows:  AABTY872V9……
A (Commander): I have a valid launch message
B (Secondary): I concur.
A: Remove Key.

**each officer would then open a lock on the key box and take out their respective key*****

Now they would start entering information from a manual that was also kept under lock and key.  They would read from the manual step by step to arm, program, and launch:

A: Unstable the missle.
B: Check.
A:  Program in-flight switch enable.
B: Check.
B: Program online codes inserted.
A: Roger.
A: Enable Switch enabled.
B: Roger.

–at this point one of the two phones would ring with a final authorization call———-

A: Key turn on my mark

5….4…3…2…1

The key was turned and the missle launch was committed. The doors would fly open – literally – and the missle would launch.

The silo crew, now having done its mission, gets to kick back and wait to die.

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Scouting An Abandoned Cold War Missile Base Hidden In The Adirondacks

Quick note: Though you may have read about this property before, most articles have simply reprinted the same stock real estate photos over and over. As always, all pictures are my own work, and I don’t think you’ll find a tour like this anywhere else.

When you first see it in the distance, you wouldn’t think it anything other than a picturesque home in the Adirondacks:

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But this house has a secret.

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Back in Time on Ivy Hill Road

Well, there’s certainly no hill…

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